Monday, December 8, 2025

TheSkirtingCo First Impressions


I have a 38' 6" (roughly) fifth wheel trailer now and desired to install some skirting to keep the winter away from my water, i.e. prevent frozen lines AND tanks.  Know a few people that couldn't stop talking about what a difference skirting makes in cooler weather, not just freezing weather.  When temps start dipping below comfy, skirting tends to keep RV warmer and less drafty.  This results in lower heating costs, warmer floor, running water, and a happier partner.

Pre ordering process wasn't a great initial experience.  Initially emailed TheSkirtingCo on Black Friday asking questions on if they had sales as website indicated these would be shown on Faceb@@k.  To get it out of the way, I'm weird and not on there with the Lizard man.  Asked them question regarding diesel heater exhaust and what they recommended for that as well.  Didn't expect reply on the weekend so waited till later Monday to reach out by telephone as didn't receive email response, not even crickets.   Lizard man must have ate the crickets.

When called no one answered, so left a message asking for callback.  When they did call, within 30 minutes, it was a nice knowledgeable woman on the other end, super friendly.  Asked my couple questions, important one was sales for Black Friday or Thanksgiving, she seemed to indicate they don't do sales at all, which is a bummer as one of their competitors had a 15% off sale at the same time. I thanked her for her time and said will place an order the next day.

After much going back and forth on their website, analyzing what truly need versus want, finally settled on below kit.  My thought process was to price out everything that wanted, then trim it down to something that would still function without going overboard on price, especially as no sales....  GRRRR.  Not that I'm upset, really not upset, really truly not upset.....  Honestly, couldn't be happier about their lack of sales on Black Friday...  Like what company doesn't offer sales on Black Friday, apparently this one....

picture showing care taken
in protecting keder tracks
Great attention to detail, impressive!

Using their website here is what I ordered the next day:

  • kit for bumper pull 31-34 feet (not fifth wheel)
  • noted 2 slideouts will be skirted (have 3)
  • chose Standard (1 layer) skirting
  • chose DIY kit 
  • System calculated, based on my selections
    • 13 bumper pull panels
    • 11 bumper pull tracks
  • chose 3 access panels @ $60 USD each
  • chose Pack of 30 water bags for weights, $150 USD
  • Subtotal (before addons): $1803.75
  • Addons:
    • 3 access panels $180 USD
    • water bag 30 pack $150 USD
  • Total: $2133.75 USD

My original pricing with insulated skirting, an extra bump out, the fifth wheel enclosure, heated hose, and couple other things was about $3400 USD.  Changed quite a bit to be what I think is the minimum need for location where will spend this winter.  If they had a sale would've gotten fifth wheel enclosure and possibly R7 insulated skirting material.  Yet they don't have sales, oh, we covered that already, didn't we...

In comparison to this, two stories on DIY skirting others have done from people I know.  One recently and the other 6-7 years ago.
  • $70 to skirt 23 foot fifth wheel belly (not fifth wheel portion)
    • Used reflective bubble wrap from Home Depot
    • Secured to RV with duct tape, matching color closely
    • Kind of portable
    • Visually unappealing (to me)
  • $300-400 7 years ago for bumper pull 34'+
    • They didn't go into too much details, two layers
    • Outer layer heavy black plastic
    • Inner layer rigid foam board, 1 or 2 inch
    • Weather constant below freezing weather in Minnesota, Michigan, or that type of environment, no freezing
    • Not really portable, they gave it to someone who wanted it.
Similarly, did some internet sleuthing looking at different setups.  From what saw, it seems that any well installed skirting will generally keep the underside of an RV above freezing.  Insulation seems to help the lower the temperature is, but even in moderately cold freezing temperatures a solid windproof fabric keeps the underbelly relatively warm.  Saw plenty of installs with white stuff on the ground and running water with just plain uninsulated skirting that was well installed.  Saw some installs where they added supplementary electric heater underneath to help keep chill off.  The thing with skirting is it stops airflow allowing radiant heat from RV, and the earth, to keep it warmer than outside.

Miscellaneous
Throughout the pricing aspect and determining what really truly need kept on thinking of the ROI, or Return On Investment.  Money only grows on trees if you are in politics, on one side primarily.  There's simply no way it will pay for itself quickly.  For this kit might have an ROI of  5 years, though more likely 7 - 10 years if stay in current climate.  Whereas the DIY approach has a much faster payback period, a month or two with the bubble wrap option.  Anything that's built for an RV, skirting included, is always, always, 2-3 times cost of normal, just the way it is sadly.

After placed my order that following day, the same young woman called me as I did a fubar when typed shipping address, zip code was incorrect.  Once fixed zip code smooth sailing.  The next morning received shipping notification and tracked package halfway across the country to where I am now. 

When got the boxes was extremely impressed in how well they were packaged, for the most part.  Would've been nice if they filled in the extra space at top of the 82 pound box to prevent a slight bit of damage.  Overall everything survived and looks good.

Uh-oh, a note....

Contents of the boxes.

  • Package 1
    • The channels which mount to side of RV
  • Package 2
    • 30 water bags for skirting weights
      • Didn't expect them to be so big
      • Chose as they collapse down small, not as small as expected
      • Didn't want sandbags as want to stay mobile
      • Could've scrounged local materials yet they're not portable
  • Package 3
    • Cutting scissors
    • Puncher (not a punching bag)
    • Hand Riveter
    • KU-String (toy????, it's not lube)
    • padded envelope containing
      • Very impressive mug!

        6 business cards
      • pack of screws in thin plastic bag
      • bunch of rivets
      • loose drill bit
      • sticker
      • small gorilla glue tube
    • can of 3M Tape Primer 94
    • 70% Isopropyl spray alcohol bottle
    • Snap box
    • Skirting fabric, neatly folded
    • 3 access panels
    • bunch of velcro strips
    • Fancy dancy insulated metal mug (impressed with this one)
    • And a note.......
      • No trim lock...  How do I do stairs???????

Tools

This is almost a resounding success.  Expected some Trim Lock for around RV steps.  The snap kit also has a cracked top which fixed by covering with clear packing tape.  The little snap thing which keeps it closed came fully off when opened the kit.  This can't be resealed so used more packing tape to keep it shut.  Thankfully no snap things appear to be lost.  Last thing is almost didn't notice the drill bit, it was loose in the padded envelope, at the bottom, wish it was placed in a separate bag then inserted into envelope.

Initial view of box

While I am mechanically inclined and fairly quick at picking things up, do not understand why some things were included, yet also not included, like printed guide showing some of the finer aspects of the install is not here.  Contents of a guide could include things like side drawing of snap cap installation order, what to do around corners and slides. measurements and locations of where rivets and snap caps are installed.  For my install, on the surface it looks like won't be using rivets as that seems to be related to the missing Trim Lock and the corners.  Instead we are left with YouTube videos on their website which show an overall flow of installation yet lack details.  Some things, like quality of materials are excellent, other aspects are less well thought out and not fully polished like I would've expected for the price.

This is my initial take on "Had I known then what I now know", might have changed a few things.  Provided for your delight, or maybe dismay.

  • Instead of ordering 3 access panels for $180 USD
    • Order 1 extra slideout kit for skirting material @~$130 USD
    • -or- increase length of RV by one length (from 27-30 to 31-34)
    • Source local velcro to stick on
    • Reason: savings of $50 USD (if use slideout kit and minus velcro cost)
      • extra fabric for patching as well
      • savings based on what 3 access panels, can really get a lot more
    • Expected insulated fabric for access panels as that's what website shows
    • Understand they expended labor creating access panels, hence price.
  • Instead of ordering 30 water bags
    • Order about 1.5 per panel, gives few extras


Access Panel rear
Access Panel front









Summary, stretched on some of the cons as they felt like it for me.

Con:

  • Pre sales support, lack of email responsiveness
  • Lack of Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale
  • Lack of paper install manual, or at least QR codes on paper
  • No trim lock, not even small amount for stairs
    • As shown in YouTube
  • Tools and parts included that won't be used for my kit
  • Not a polished initial experience for the price
  • Only YouTube videos for install guidance
    • Can contact them during business hours for additional support

Pro:

  • Pre sales support, returned phone call within 30 minutes
  • Keder Tracks!!!! 💖
  • High quality skirting material to fit keder tracks
  • "Free" shipping
  • Quality Installation materials
    • For the most part
  • Small family and veteran owned business
Water bag
Velcro and stack of skirting
Overall am pleased with quality of the skirting and mounting channels, less pleased about other parts of the kit and the overall experience so far.  Quality of the product is why I chose this instead of DIY, or their competitor (with a sale) EZ Snap.  DRAT, mentioned the sale (or lack of one) again.






The one single reason I wanted this kit over other premade ones is the keder track.  This allows for greater mobility and ease of setup/tear down (after initial install).  Quality of skirting fabric and ease of the unknown install process are secondary reasons.

Tuesday, January 8, 2019

Back from being withdrawn

Don't know where to start this, so will just start here....  Better place than no place.

In the past year or so withdrew to my old way of living, that is to keep to myself mostly and play computer games.  While nothing is truly wrong with playing computer games, I generally take things to the excess and play them in ALL my non working / non traveling moments.  Just the way things are sometimes.  Apologies to all that expected more of a reason, and thanks for reading!

Quick synopsis of the last year, and plans for the next few months.  Will have couple posts to go through some details.

Spent last winter in Florida.  At the park I stayed at was a lady that worked at the hospital I was born in.  Found out she is very likely the one who drew my blood shortly after was born.  Now, I'm not a believer in vampires, but.......  There is also no such thing as coincidences.  It all happens for a reason, we just need to connect the dots.

Had a few problems with the motor home in Florida, dead starter battery (from when bypassed relay), leak in transmission (put a heli-coil in to stop leak), and then a grand finale when got to Pahrump, more on that finale later.  There was something else, cheap Chinese tire separation I think, in Deming.

After all that went the route of a new rig.   For those that have seen me since made the decision, you know, you really know the abbreviated story.  For those that haven't hold on to yer britches (notice the R in there).

Spent this past summer on Vashon Island, and, well, this summer it's extremely likely going East.  I have a recent missive.  It's not written on paper so technically not a missive, but it is to me, all that counts.  Am hopeful to go west to Vashon before summer is over..  No Florida this winter.  Also finally cleaned out storage unit on Vashon!!!  YaY mE.

Right now am boondocking in Quartzsite, AZ.  Definition of boondocking for those that don't know:
No fresh water, electricity or sewer utilities while camping in an RV. Living without conveniences such as municipal electricity or water, indoor plumbing, or grocery stores, especially when camping with a recreational vehicle (taken from UrbanDictionary)
Will be here through January, then going to Vegas in February and 9 days of firearms training in Pahrump.

After that there is possibility of doing some travel for work (to where it's cold (booo)) for a few days then head east for the missive, hopefully not the whole summer.  Will avoid heading too far north....

Hope everyone had a great Christmas and a wonderful New Years Eve!  Here's to a great 2019!


Electrical issue, no power to dash

Please be advised that this is an old post that I was working on December of 2017.  Have not completed it, publishing it for posterity.

What the long winded story winds up with, and what's not fully fleshed out, is after broke down, after tried to fix it on the road, after getting towed to a mechanic, after the mechanic scratched their balls (yes, they were males) and heads (don't want to know which head), I fixed it myself by following some basic troubleshooting steps.  By tracing the main power wire, which did not have power, and then figure out how it gets power.  To get power to the dash bypassed a relay that went bad in the engine battery compartment (temporarily, replaced it later) and it fired up straight away.

Original WIP (Work in Progress) below

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Was happily on my way from Deming, NM to Hondo, TX, cruising down the road, well, rumbling up a hill, and all of a sudden had flickering gauges.  They've been acting up now and then so thought nothing of it and reduced electrical usage and kept on rolling..  Until...

One fateful moment, going up a hill, and turned the windshield wipers on, as there was a light mist falling (like the Seattle area winter mist).  It was at this point the gauges went wild and then went out...  No power, no engine, was just coasting, thankfully up a hill.  Brakes were extremely hard, really couldn't steer at all (a little but not much), and was nearing crest of hill with no idea what was on other side.

Thoughts of Grandeur, or something akin to that, were going through my head on what could happen.  However, did my best to stay focused and steered to breakdown lane ASAP and pressed pretty hard on the brakes.  At the last moment still had a tiny amount of electrical power to transmission so slipped that into neutral and pulled the parking break as pulled to a stop.

And there I sat.....  Contemplating life choices and what just went wrong.

No major incidents, no changing of underwear (for those that wear), just a reflection on the moments that led up to this moment, trying to figure out what went wrong where.

Will cut to the chase at this point, but the final diagnosis, and what got me on the road again, was a faulty relay.  Soon as bypassed that was able to get dash power and away I went!!!  HOORAY!!!

Yet, to get to that point the struggle was real, super real...

Every capable Rv owner should carry a basic set of tools, such as socket set, wrenches, allen wrenches, hammers, multi-meter(s), and whatever else they figure they could need.  It was due to this that I was able to start the diagnosis.

First steps first, check the battery.  All good, 13.5 volts or better on both the house and the engine batteries.  The engine ones are most important so focused on those, house (golf cart) batteries were just to be thorough.

Next, checked connections, all are in order, no corrosion, did have one loose connection on the first engine battery, but that didn't solve issue when I tightened it.

I followed this up by breaking out the manual, yes, the infamous manual we never seem to read but know it exists.  In that manual knew there were electrical schematics.  But, haven't truly read them since high school..  You can figure out where this is going, not far.  Could tell alternator, battery, fuses, but after that completely and utterly lost.  But, I did get a schooling and learned a lot so all not lost.

My thoughts followed next course of action, trying to diagnose further why not getting power.  In the rear of the coach knew had power, buku power, lots of power, but, as you now know, it wasn't getting up front.  Didn't think much of the wiring in the middle as that seemed to be just a straight run.

The next step was to check all the fuses, front and rear.  There was one little 5 amp fuse in the rear that was blown, replaced that and still no power.  All the fuses in front appeared to be good with no corroded contacts, almost pristine but a little aged.

Baffled, headed back to schematic, only to throw hands up again in confusion.

Next, searched the wonderful internet, where everything we read is true, except fake news, but who knows what's fake.  It was at this point that stumbled on some forums and they insinuated that the factory is more than willing to help out with no power to the dash problems....  Sooo, you know what I did, called the factory.

Called and got a real, blue blooded American!!!!  Miracles, and spoke perfect english...  America is Great!!!  Well, it is what we make of it.  However, much to my chagrin, and though he tried and tried and tried, couldn't find the manual and or schematics for my older coach.  I was just amazed that he was willing and able to search!!!  Kudo's to FreightLiner, well, maybe Daimler / Chrysler, well, who knows, telephone system was weird.  Was just happy someone answered.

The factory guy did suggest I start diagnosing at the dash and work back from there, so that's what I did, but quickly got lost.  Just a plethora of wires, both from the factory and add-on wires that the original owner put in.

Tuesday, December 5, 2017

Power, protection failure, and warranty failure Update 3

This takes the place of Update 3, and will get an Update 4 together as made one modification.

The company sent me a new exact replacement.  On the new one did add rubber gasket material to where I think one of the entry points for water could be.  This probably makes the warranty (if any) on the replacement unit invalid, but would rather not replace it yet again.

If, for some reason, need to replace it, will go with an internal unit...  No more of this external madness.

So, all in all, am happy so far with the unit, wanted to get an update out lest forget again.

Original Post

First Followup

Monday, October 23, 2017

Power, protection failure, and warranty failure Update 2

Just a quick update:

Original post

Update 1

Supplied my address to representative at Progressive Industries and received box about a week ago.  As was undergoing training it went to office at park where am at and just picked it up today.

Will make a final update when close BBB complaint and make sure the replacement unit functions properly, with pictures!!!

8 Days at FrontSight Firearms Training Institute

This was a full eight days of learning experience, which includes skill building and many other aspects of operating, and being around, firearms.  The training happened at FrontSight Firearms Training Institute.

I first learned about FrontSight about three and a half years ago at an RV show in Indio, CA.  It was one of the FMCA rallies.  A booth was at the rally and they were selling memberships to here, price was reasonable.  After purchasing it promptly forgot about this as my first cat passed away, Pia, and that truly devastated me.

About eighteen months ago remembered had this, came and took a tour of facility, and worked it into schedule to take these two courses, see if liked / didn't like it, and to learn and understand weapons, in a civilian capacity, better.  Recently I kept thinking about something a dear friend of mine told me, when she traveled the country as a young single woman between events.  She related a few stories where she went into places like gas stations, truck stops, and the like, and there were some sketchy people around, looking at her in skeevy ways.  This worried her greatly and she seemed genuinely worried for her safety at the time.

Due to this, and some of my experiences on the road so far, chose to attend these courses in a controlled and educational environment. Am extremely surprised at the depth in which they teach.  The curriculum is not only about shooting, it's about so much more.  The courses main focus is on the defensive use of firearms.  Let me repeat, the defensive use of firearms.

As the main focus is on the defensive use, including such topics and mandatory lectures as criminal and civil liabilities, covering different types of scenarios on proper use of force, force escalation, color code of mental awareness, and many other topics.  They also covered that, although you might be justified in proper use of force, sometimes that justification should not be used.  One example FrontSight provided is an armed robbery at a convenience store.  You can use deadly force, not only to protect yourself, but also to protect innocents, such as life of the cashier.  However, if the armed robbers got what they want, didn't harm anyone, and are leaving the store, and you happen to fire and hit them, then you might be both criminally and civilly liable due to escalation of potential deadly force.  Even though you, at one point, had just cause, the point of imminent danger passed and now it's an armed robbery law enforcement issue, not a matter of life and death.  This line is grey and it's hard to judge what the "bad guy" is thinking as he could've turned around and popped the cashier as he was leaving.

One topic which both the instructors and the lecture topics harped on, is not the use of deadly force.  This is super important.  As a firearms owner / user, the intent for self defense is not to kill the aggressor, the intent is to stop the action that they're doing which is putting you, or innocent people, in a life threatening situation.  The way FrontSight teaches this is to use a controlled pair of shots to the thoracic cavity (handgun), followed by a head shot if they are still aggressive.  Once the threat is neutralized then should call 911 (if not done already), properly stow the weapon (if scene is safe) and wait for law enforcement.

BUT, it's not always necessary to use a firearm.  If it's possible to get out of the situation you're in, without brandishing a weapon, by all means do it.  This is unlikely in event of a home invasion, but still possible.

As I do not own a firearm, all firearms I used as part of the training were supplied by FrontSight.  This was nice from the standpoint of just showing up in the morning, getting it, shooting it, and turning it in at end of day.  Detail below on the individual courses, with a followup on these weapons rentals.

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Four Day Tactical Shotgun Course


This was my first course ever, outside of the military, and first time handling, and shooting a shotgun.  The experience itself is great, though I truly beat myself up handling a shotgun like that, with so many rounds in a few short days.

All in all a great experience.

Not that I can cover all the topics here, but will cover some highlights.  The foundation of the course is defensive use of shotgun, such as in a home situation.  The course covered the three main types of shotgun ammunition, bird (game) shot, OO Buckshot, and slugs, and also went through the different zones of effectiveness of each different type.

For example, buckshot has an "A" zone, in which the shot (consisting of nine pellets) generally punches a solid hole in the target (paper in our case).  It's somewhat raggedy around the edges but all in all a solid hole.  The A zone distance can vary significantly on a few factors, such as ammunition manufacturer, lot number, weapon type, and a few other criteria.  The "B" zone is also affected by the different factors, and illustrates where the shot is not a single hole but more distinct holes, but also typically covers the thoracic cavity, or maybe even a hand size pattern in the thoracic cavity.  The "C" zone is like scatter shot and where, when properly aimed, one or more pellets do not cover the target and definitely fall outside of the thoracic cavity.

There is a general limitation of most shotguns in that there is a lack of ammo capacity, yet the devastation that a well placed shot can cause will definitely stop a hostile target.  Yet, need to be careful on the shots as it's easy to potentially hit innocent bystanders due to pellets missing the target, or going through the target.

During the course different ammo malfunctions were covered.  These malfunctions are typically called Type 1, Type 2, and Type 3.  Type 1 is generally an empty chamber (failure to fire), Type 2 is ammunition that failed to eject and is visible (typically called brass high), and Type 3 is two rounds in chamber area.

Dry fire (practicing without ammunition) is done quite often throughout the course.

Multiple targets were also practiced in this class extensively and were present on the skills evaluation at end of course.

Throughout this course the defensive use of this weapon was emphasized, and only to use enough force to stop any acts of potential life threatening situations you may encounter.  The intent is not to cause death.

This course is physically demanding due to the shotgun itself.  While the recoil isn't overly bad, the repeated recoil and thought process of the whole course takes it's toll.  Definitely recommend using products / modifications to reduce recoil, including shoulder pads.

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Four Day Defensive Handgun course


Like the Four Day Tactical Shotgun course, this was all in all a great experience.  Yet, doing this back to back with the shotgun was tiring, both physically and emotionally, yet still rewarding.

Important to note, that just like the shotgun course, the handgun course's primary goal is to stop any life threatening situations you may encounter.  As mentioned in the preamble this is typically accomplished using a controlled pair to the thoracic cavity, followed by a single head shot ONLY if conditions warrant and the target(s) are still aggressive.

This course started off in much the same manner as the shotgun, safety first, always safety, and never a focus on lethal force.

First piece of the course was combination of dry firing and malfunction handling.  The same three basic types of malfunctions (type 1, 2, and 3) for shotguns also apply to handguns.  That is failure to fire (a click), brass high (round stuck exiting firing chamber), and a double feed.

For the initial dry firing aspect we went up to the line and practiced getting the proper sight picture, proper trigger press, and general firing mechanics.  The instructors did a very thorough job with this.

For the initial firing of the handgun, the instructors actually did this for us.  They fired the firearm first at the target (to give us a reference point to aim at), then they walked us through the firing, literally hands on.  They had us hold the firearm, finger on the trigger, then they pressed the trigger for us, slowly and methodically, until a round went off.  This happened two to three times.

It was followed up immediately by the instructor watching intently as we pulled the trigger, slowly and methodically, to achieve the proper trigger press and surprise break, as well as understanding the trigger reset.

After some more baby steps in getting familiar with firing hand guns we practiced controlled pairs on paper targets.  This I really excelled at and immediately got most of shots in the thoracic cavity.  As the training progressed we then switched to the controlled pair as well as a stopping head shot randomly, at the Range Master's instruction.  Super thorough.

Throughout all the firing exercises the firing line instructors, and range master, were always watching after the students to maintain safety and improve our individual firearms handling skills.  This includes grips, trigger pull, analyzing what we did when shooting at the paper targets, the whole gamut really.

Of particular note is a live fire simulator, a small building'ish type of structure that quickly go through and practice the skills that learned so far.  Got the mind working and thinking about real world scenarios.

As mentioned above, for the most part a thorough and enjoyable course, one which I did extremely well with.

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A tale of two woes.


At, or near, the end of each course, there is a skills evaluation to determine your firearm handling skills.  As with any evaluation there are different levels, identified below:

  • Distinguished graduate - achieved 90% or greater proficiency with tested actions
  • Graduate - achieved 70% - 89%, or greater, proficiency with tested actions
  • Achievement - achieved less than 70% proficiency with tested actions


The items tested included firing drills, malfunction drills, and reload drills.  My own personal (biased) opinion is that I excelled at all of these, especially as a first time student and shooter of these weapons.  But, as this section states, it's a tale of two woes, one woe for each course.

I did not learn the exact grading structure until the handgun course (wasn't fully explained in shotgun course), and it's about as follows:

  • Start with a fixed score
  • Each miss subtracts five points
  • Each "procedural" subtracts three points
  • Exceed allotted time for action subtracts three points
  • For handgun, if round lands outside of targeted area, subtract three points


For the shotgun course I missed distinguished graduate by five points, or one shot.  I was eighteen (18) points down from the starting score.  There are a few ways where points can be subtracted to add up to eighteen, such as three misses (five points each) and exceed time of one action (three points).

During, and after, the skills evaluation, received no feedback on what went wrong so truly have no idea what went wrong where.  Just know missed the distinguished graduate by five points.  Infuriating in a way but I didn't come to beat the score, I came for the experience.  It still left a bad taste in my mouth.

For the handgun course, it's more complicated, and as of this writing do not know how I did.  There are three "tiers" of evaluation.  First is controlled pair target shooting, next is controlled pair and head shot target shooting, and final is malfunction and reloading drills.

It was midway through the combination controlled pair and head shot drills where it all went south.  Up until this point was only five points down, due to one missed shot that I yanked the trigger on.  Had great sight picture and it was all going smooth.  THEN, a type 3 malfunction happened, third one of the day, and that's where stopped caring as couldn't rely on the weapon, a rental weapon.  At this time didn't miss any shots in this stage, all head shots and controlled pairs accounted for within target zones.  After the malfunction, and clearing the malfunction, missed the subsequent three head shots yet got the controlled pairs.

During the malfunction and reloading drills, again, was beside myself with the rental weapon, and purposely flubbed them all.  Probably got a few procedural's and out of time on all of them.

At this point, just as we broke for lunch, had a total of three type 3 malfunctions (two in practice before the evaluation and one during evaluation).  Had at least two type 3 malfunctions the prior day, with the same weapon.  Brought most of these to the staff's attention and my firing line partner and I exchanged knowing glances each time it happened.

At this point in the course am feeling hopeless and beyond myself with the rental hand gun after all these malfunctions.  It felt like all this was a useless exercise as couldn't trust the weapon.

After lunch we came back and did some more fun practice, such as shooting at targets that looked like obvious bad guys.  Am dubious and hopeless on the weapon, just expecting another type 3 malfunction.  I fired a few rounds at the target until got a type 1 malfunction, which is a click and no boom.  One of the firing line instructors came over and saw the malfunctions happen and attempted to help, to no avail.  Racked and round popped out, ready to fire again, and another click but no boom.  Repeated this two more times in the subsequent drills when gave up, unloaded, holstered, and requested permission to leave firing line.

Shortly after leaving line turned in rental weapon to range staff, reported malfunctions to weapons rental, and left day four early.

As of right now still have no idea how I did in the handgun course.  Am just happy don't have to deal with that rental weapon again, or so they said.  Going back first thing in the morning to finish up the course.

It's not the ammo, it's not the user, it's the hardware, and hardware problems, i.e. things out of my direct control, get me super irritated.  It is my thought that the weapon is dirty though just a hunch.  The Springfield Armory XD series is supposed to be a highly rated and extremely reliable weapon, yet I had nothing but issues the last two days.

Now, back to the shotgun, had a few problems during the evaluation portion with racking the pump.  I assumed, at the time, that it was just me, even though had no problems racking prior.  After dealing with the handgun malfunctions, am sure that it could be a hardware issue, possibly a dirty weapon.  This I do not know for certain but if true it's truly infuriating.

Final thoughts:


All in all a great course and achieved my goals.  Yet, I will NOT RENT A WEAPON (or buy ammo) again through FrontSight, unless want to do a full auto course.  By all rights I feel as if should've scored a distinguished graduate in both courses but didn't as I feel the rental weapons malfunctions are to blame.  I still recommend the training, just don't rent weapons!

Thursday, October 5, 2017

Power protection failure, and warranty failure, Update 1

Just a quick update in that the company contacted me Tuesday morning, explained what happened on their side, and offered to replace the unit.


Updated my original post with this:

The current status is a representative contacted me from Progressive Industries and they will replace the unit.  Will provide address for shipment when get to my next location have an open complaint with the Better Business Bureau about Progressive Industries failure to honor their warranty.


When receive further communication will update status on original post and close the BBB complaint when it's satisfied.